Eve A Test Dummy?

Eve a test dummy?

This seems to be One of the Latest Theories I have heard recently on the bible. I use Theory because I hadnt found ANY scripture that backs it up and the ones saying it hadnt given me any except Adam being present made Him Guilty.   

The topic is Adam is the blame not Eve for eating the fruit in the Garden of Eden.  

The reasoning I have been given by a few people is that Adam was there and didnt stop Eve. Not only that, he used her as a guinee pig to make sure he wouldnt die if he ate of the fruit. He made her eat first to see the outcome.

I dont see anything that says Adam used Eve to make sure it was safe for him to eat.

The serpent convinced Eve to eat.

Eve Gave to Adam.

The Lord said to Eve “what is this that THOU has done?”

God punished Eve for eating of the fruit and giving it to Adam.

Adam was punished for listening to the woman and eating of the fruit.

I know we live in a society that teaches dont accept responsibility for your own actions and it is others fault but we dont need to apply that theology to the bible. How people can say it was Adams fault and not include Eve I just dont see.

If you do notice Adam blamed eve instead of just accepting he did wrong. Even blamed the serpent instead of saying she did wrong. How far have we come from then till now. We still play the blame game. It's not me. Its them. My kids wouldnt do that? How many times do our friends and family expect us to take their sides even if they are in the wrong. We can read when it started but when will it stop.

What I get from these verses concerning the forbidden fruit is that they BOTH did wrong. They BOTH knew they did wrong and tried to hide from God. They BOTH tried to blame others when confronted.

If the bible verses themselves dont convince you. Men, have your wife do something she isnt wanting to do and see how it goes. Wives, do you expect your husband to listen to what you tell him to do? Be honest?

God made man the head of the house and the woman a helpmate who we as men should love and treat with all the respect they deserve. We should be lifting them up enough so we never look down at them and they never feel they look up at us in any way except with respect for treating them with love.

For bible referenses, I put the whole chapter IN king james version and the key verses also in NIV.

Lets read the chapter it talks about.

Genesis 3King James Version (KJV)

3 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LordGod had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?

2 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:

3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.

4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:

5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.

7 And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.

8 And they heard the voice of the Lord God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LordGod amongst the trees of the garden.

9 And the Lord God called unto Adam, and said unto him, Where art thou?

10 And he said, I heard thy voice in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked; and I hid myself.

11 And he said, Who told thee that thou wast naked? Hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded thee that thou shouldest not eat?

12 And the man said, The woman whom thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat.

13 And the Lord God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat.

14 And the Lord God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:

15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.

17 And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life;

18 Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt eat the herb of the field;

19 In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.

20 And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living.

21 Unto Adam also and to his wife did the Lord God make coats of skins, and clothed them.

22 And the Lord God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:

23 Therefore the Lord God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken.

24 So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.

Key verses in New international version:

3 but God did say, ‘You must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle of the garden, and you must not touch it, or you will die.’”

6 When the woman saw that the fruit of the tree was good for food and pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for gaining wisdom, she took some and ate it. She also gave some to her husband, who was 12 The man said, “The woman you put here with me—she gave me some fruit from the tree, and I ate it.”

13 Then the Lord God said to the woman, “What is this you have done?” with her, and he ate it. 

17 To Adam he said, “Because you listened to your wife and ate fruit from the tree about which I commanded you, ‘You must not eat from it,’

WALKING DEAD

Walking Dead.

It's a popular TV show about The walking dead. How about that, it tells you in the title what to expect.

It's about zombies. They are dead, walking around and trying to increase their numbers by infecting others.

What does this have to do with Spiritual things? This will probably sound strange, but it reminds me at times what it's like to try and live a Christian life.

We live in a world of sin. We are Born again and given eternal life thru Jesus Christ. Psalms 4:3 says, “Know that the LORD has set apart His faithful servant for himself;” But, we have to stay alert. If we put ourselves in places to be tempted and give in to it, it's like our testimony, our witness, is destroyed. The world wants to effect us so that we are not set appart. It wants to effect us and make us one of them.

Peter 5:8 says, “Be alert and of sober mind. Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour.” In the show, this is literal. Spiritually, the devil wants to keep others away from true life. He wants them to stay a zombie and to effect others. He doesnt want the dead to learn about God's love and how His Son died for our sins. Psalms 115:17 says “The dead do not praise the Lord, Nor any who go down into silence.”

The Bible says we are already condemned. We are walking dead until we accept Christ as our Savior. John 3:16 – 18 says “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God's one and only Son.”

The show also has hinted at who really is the walking dead? Is it the zombies? Or is it the living? The Walking Dead TV show says that everyone was infected by a virus. That it is already in us. So we are dead already, just waiting to see how it ends. Looking at it spritually, when Adam and Eve sinned, it basically created a sin virus that is already in us. We are walking around dead and waiting to see how our life ends. Unlike the show, we have a cure. That is Salvation through Jesus. Admit He is your Savior, Believe He is the Son of God, and Confess your sins and TURN from them.

I know this is a little different, but some times, to reach others you have to speak their language. You have to show them in a way they may understand. Or at least get their attention and make them think.

Hmm, I wonder what I should do next.
Vampires and how the blood is important to life and how the Shedding of Jesus' blood is important to our life.
Frankenstien, how man tries to make himself in his own image instead of accepting that God made us in His image.

Wolfman and how under certain situations he gives into his nature?

Or Dr Jeckle and Mr Hyde. How you may live fooling others that you are like them, but when they are not around you show your evil side.

Happy Halloween or NOT? What are you doing and should you?

HALLOWEEN: GOOD OR BAD:

I know some that dont do halloween in any form due to their spiritual beliefs. I understand and respect their belief. I also, know some who do Trunk or Treat in hopes to be a witness on this day.

For those who dont do anything on this day here is some reasons I have found:

Deuteronomy 18:10-12
never sacrifice your son or daughter as a burnt offering. And do not let your people practice fortune-telling or sorcery, or allow them to interpret omens, or engage in witchcraft, or cast spells, or function as mediums or psychics, or call forth the spirits of the dead. Anyone who does these things is an object of horror and disgust to the Lord.

Corinthians 10:21 - You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons. You cannot partake of the table of the Lord and the table of demons.

1 Peter 5:8 - Be sober-minded; be watchful. Your adversary the devil prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour.

3 John 1:11 - Beloved, do not imitate evil but imitate good. Whoever does good is from God; whoever does evil has not seen God.

Ephesians 5:11 - Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them.

Romans 12:2 - Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect.

Ephesians 5:6-12 - Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of these things the wrath of God comes upon the sons of disobedience. Therefore do not become partners with them; for at one time you were darkness, but now you are light in the Lord. Walk as children of light (for the fruit of light is found in all that is good and right and true), and try to discern what is pleasing to the Lord.

These are some verses I have heard for the reasons not to do Halloween. A lot have to do with DONT DO EVIL. Dont be conformed. Dont be deceived. Follow your own spirit and Trust God where He leads you concerning doing anything on this day. Are you doing anything good for God.

For those for Halloween.

1 Corinthians 9:22 

22 To the weak I became weak, to win the weak. I have become all things to all people so that by all possible means I might save some.

John 1:5 . The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.

2 Corinthians 4:6

For God, who said, "Light shall shine out of darkness," is the One who has shone in our hearts to give the Light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Christ.

Matthew 10:27

"What I tell you in the darkness, speak in the light; and what you hear whispered in your ear, proclaim upon the housetops.

Matthew 5:16

"Let your light shine before men in such a way that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father who is in heaven.

Acts 13:47

"For so the Lord has commanded us, 'I HAVE PLACED YOU AS A LIGHT FOR THE GENTILES, THAT YOU MAY BRING SALVATION TO THE END OF THE EARTH.'"

All thru the bible it talks about how we are to be a light to the world and tell others about Christ. How we are not to be part of the world but a light IN IT.

So if your spirit is telling you that this is a way that you can SHARE THE GOSPEL then wouldnt that be showing a light to the darkness.

My simple thought on it. If you do nothing on halloween then you did NOTHING. If you can hand out a track explaining the gospel when handing out candy or doing Something that tells about Gods Love, then you are using this as we should every day. As an opportunity to share Christ.

We are doing a puppet show like we did last year. We had over 1000 kids not counting the parents that we were able to tell that Christ is their Savior and then they get candy. So if some believe this is a day of Darkness, I hope my little light shines and seeds get planted that Gods love can reach. So if your not out there, at least some of us are.

The big thing to me on this day is if you are handing out candy and thats it, you are just celebrating a holiday. Then maybe define what Halloween means? To me, its a day God gave me to tell others about Him. One they actually come to me..........

3 Men of Faith

Once upon a time there were 3 men. They all had their idea of the type of church they want to go to.

The first man said, “I will go to the church built out of straw because I don't know how long I will be here. If something would happen to the church it's not a big deal to me. I know I need to go to church, so I will go on special days, like Christmas and Easter.”

The second man said, “I will go to the church built out of sticks. I want a church that is fairly strong, but not so strong that it is going to tell me how to live. I can decide myself what is right or wrong. If the people of the church cared about me, they would accept me, and adapt to my life style instead of expecting me to change based on what the Bible says.”

Both of these men would get together on Sunday and complain about the things they didn't have and dream about having more money and bigger houses.

The third man said, “I will go to a church built out of bricks. I want one that has God as it's foundation and will stand on God's Word as the world tries to tell people that morals are decided by the individual, and not based on God's Word. A church that will teach us that we should love others, but that doesn't mean we have to compromise our beliefs to not offend others. One who can get together with others after Sunday morning church for lunch and be greatful God has given them what they have.”

They had a children's revival at the park bringing different churches together on a Saturday night. Each man felt they needed to attend since they had children in the program.. The sermon they heard was on I Peter 5:8. “Be sober, be vigilant, because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour.” The devil was there trying to find ways to distract the three men so they wouldn't hear the sermon and learn some of the ways the devil works.

The devil whispered in the first mans ear, “You don't need to hear this, there are other things you want to be doing.” So, the man took out his phone and would get online and check out who was favored to win the ball game that was on the next day. He heard the Word, but it was like it fell on stony ground and didn't stay in the man's heart.

The devil then went to the second man and whispered in his ear, “They are telling you the morals they want you to live by based on the book they read. If you want to go get drunk and flirt with the waitress you should be able to without someone else saying you can't do it. It's your body, your life, your choice. Besides, if you do something wrong, you can always go ask forgiveness of the one they call God. He is love and has to forgive you. He knows you, even if I really don't know Him.” He heard the words, but it was like it fell among thorns. He would justify his views based on how he felt instead of what God's Word said.

The devil was feeling proud of his progress and went to the third man. The devil whispered in the man's ear, but it didn't distract him. It was like the words he was hearing was falling on good soil and the more he heard, it was taking root and growing. So, the devil got louder saying he was going to blow the mans life apart. The devil would tell him, “You deserve to have more money to provide for your family better. What God gives you is not enough for all you do.” The man still didn't budge. So, the devil would scream in the third mans ear, “Look at the man over there, he has talked about you behind your back. And the lady over there, she is going to the same heaven you are, even though she just made Christ her savior last week and you have been working for God's kingdom for years. It's not fair.”

The alter call time came and the third man could feel that the devil was trying to take his joy and love away. So, he went up to the alter and prayed for God's strength. He then asked to speak to the church and told everyone that the devil was there trying to prevent God's Word from doing anything. He shouted to the devil saying, “I rebuke you, you can't have any part of my life. It belongs to God.” So, the devil fled from the building.

The first and second man saw the third man's faith and realized they have been missing something from their life. So, they went to the alter and accepted Christ as their Savior. Now all 3 men are going to the same church and actively working to spread the Gospel of Christ to others.